And that would have been right before you came back on the board. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. There were voices raised. Like so many other cradle to present churched people, all I ever knew was the KJV Bible. James MacDonald. I mean, again, it was a meeting into the wee hours of the night, early morning. There were times in the meeting where, you know, I didnt even know what gaslighting was. Theres a number of narratives out there right now about how these letters came to the elder board. Otherwise just say what you really mean in your question: Im better than you because I would never support There is a solution for our sin in Scripture. And I know its cost you personally. And so when they started arguing the process, I was just like, Oh, my gosh, thats what were just gonna talk about the process. "Mancow Airs Shocking Comments By James MacDonald": Julie Roys' Response February 12, 2019 Cherie Vandermillen [Julie Roys] I never thought I would hear an evangelical, mega-church pastor talk about planting child pornography on the computer of an executive at a Christian publication. It was in the very, very early days of its launch. But I had all I had all the letters by that point. . Because they stood up to James or they just tried to walk away quietly because they couldnt they couldnt stomach what was going on any any longer. And I sat and prayed. And I dont know whether it was Rick Donald, who was was talking at that point about he had the letters, and didnt think that the elders should read all of them. Am I characterizing that correctly? Im not positive on that. The whole crooked machine needs to be brought down. Tell Harvest Church board hows the fruit now? His employment is coming to an end. But James McDonald, he did not like to fly with the commoners, from what I understand. I called him. What Happens Now? But would he have been able to save face do you think? Julie Roys is a veteran investigative reporter and founder of The Roys Report. This isnt phrased to have constructive conversation. You can imagine it wasnt it wasnt long before the elders were, you know, talking and I dont remember the timing exactly. And, again, this is five days after I published my expose of Harvest and World Magazine. In a recent Instagram story, Visconti, pastor of Generation Church in Mesa, claimed abuse is not a biblical justification for divorce. And in an Instagram post on November 21 that received 5,621 likes Visconti wrote: A weak woman with a strong husband will become a strong woman. And there were several of us saying, you know, looking at I Timothy 5, looking at Hebrews 13:17, which tells us that elders are going to give an account. And and again, I got out of this like so unbelievably easily. Literally more than two dozen people. A strong woman with a stronger husband will become an unstoppable, gracious, and capable woman. Because again, that was one letter that never got published and the contents, other than what Ron Duitsman said in his recent video because he actually referenced that letter. The 8 Best Julie Roys Podcasts. And we got to a Saturday meeting then on the ninth. What Happens Now? #JRgossipslut James MacDonald (@jamesmacdonald) June 15, 2021 But he demanded that he be flown home on a private jet. Id read through everything and all the letters. It looks like these contemporary churches are just fundamentalists in different garb. But by the middle of day, right, we were talking about how we were clearly going to have to have an elder board meeting that night. Ill write a statement. . TED also reported that MacDonald's church Harvest Bible Chapel was $65 million in debt. No, Julie Roys did not open the hood on James MacDonald, although she in her own hubris would like her audience to think that. This man has been your pastor for decades. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! There was a whole discussion about whether he was repentant and I said, I dont know, hes not repentant. He was the second longest tenured pastor at Harvest. Ugh. That this was all a plot by him that he was vengeful, towards James McDonald. I remember sitting on my couch waiting to press the button to publish it. Thank you. ARC is one of the largest church planting organizations in North America. That way youll never miss an episode. You know, Ive been here the whole time. There were six people who were brave enough, vulnerable enough to write letters. @Cynthia Wright Love your comment. . Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. There would be no Roys Report without Judson University. So thats, thats February 5, 2019. Hed been the senior pastor the whole time. When I did not immediately respond, MacDonald tweeted I had declined his invitation, which I did not. Dan George served as an elder at Harvest Bible Chapel over a period of 10 years, actively serving on the elder board from 2010 through 2015, and rejoining the board in late 2018. Im Julie Roys. She gave it to me to get to the elders. And you got all of them. It basically says Jesus is as real as Santa Claus. So they have no idea what they really these, the elder board was large and had no idea really who James MacDonald was, am I right? No, its not how it went down, Julie. So far, I feel the leadership of my current church embodies this well. It was so much easier to read and understand. And so we had a long meeting that Saturday to talk about what we were going to do. What it really means to speak the truth in love, one post read. Great! And it became so obvious to be like that that was what it was. And then immediately after I felt that relief, I thought of Betsy Corning. So the topic of you know, among other things, the topic of the meeting that night on the agenda was to go through the letters to look at the charges and to walk through it and decide, does he meet the qualifications of an elder? Youre better off reading the Bible at home with your cat. . And they are even beloved by God. And I turned to Scripture, and I went to Psalm 32, where you know, the companion to Psalm 51, where Davids writing. So Rick was, in effect, the Assistant senior pastor. Because I believe in the church. Very interesting discussion. Judson is located on a beautiful 90 acre campus just 36 miles northwest of Chicago. What really caused Harvest Bible Chapel to fire James MacDonald? Maybe some have on this platform for posting Julie has provided, but Ive never seen it. Yes, I agree. How can we approve this? But it was dark. Prominent evangelical scholar, author, and missiologist, Ed Stetzer, is leaving his position as executive director of Wheaton Colleges The Billy Graham Center, Despite being disqualified from public ministry by his former megachurch for a pattern of sinful behavior, James MacDonald is preaching at Generation, An Arizona megachurch has hired Landon MacDonald as a lead pastor, despite allegations MacDonald bullied and abused those in his care while. And I remember, Julie, I was in that meeting that Tuesday night. Come out of her, my people. Who Will Pay for the SBCs Abuse Reforms Over the Long Term? Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? Then let me just ask you from the start, why are you doing this? And I was still on the board. I had asked one of the one of the people on the reconciliation team earlier that day, I said, Im going to go into a meeting with James McDonald and I need I need to have the letters I need to know. The text included the hashtags #gossipslut #gossipmonger #filthygutterwebsite #cancerinChristsbody., MacDonald also tweeted the invitation, referring to me as Julie Jezebel Roys.. Ron Duitsman, Chairman of the Board, who agreed to fire James, now appears to be out there, saying that after James got fired, that the elders were were spinning what happened in a false way. 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Now, now James is saying, oh, Mancow edited this to say something that it really didnt say. If you hear that from the pulpit, or you hear that up front, I think, if Im sitting, if Im sitting in the seat, I think well, how fast can I get to my car and confess everything that just the Holy Spirit just brought to mind? Receive E-Devotionals and Ministry Updates. I dont see that as absolving James McDonald. And I read all these verses, and we were talking about it. It is grounds for separation but not divorce., This view is popular in fundamentalist Christian circles. 1) Julie Roys. Well, maybe it had approval by the executive elders, maybe it had approval by Fred Adams, who was the CFO at the time. She sends it to me and I wrote it. Just finished my post on clarifiers that will precede the deception lists. MacDonald notes in the email that about a month after the settlement, he was able to write to recipients of the email. And by that time Harvest was 30, in its 31st. 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