They just performed, you know? If you're just joining us, my guest is Cecily Strong, and she stars in the new series "Schmigadoon!," which is a loving satire of classic musicals from the '40s and '50s. So we just were relying on testing. STRONG: (As The Girl You Wish You Hadn't Started a Conversation with at a Party) Please do not man-terrupt (ph) me when I'm wo-making (ph) a point, Michael. Please, no song. And she recommends the corn puddin'. STRONG: I said no, actually, at first to going to Vancouver and shooting because I was - I really was afraid. Keegan-Michael Key's character hates musicals and is desperate to leave. And so we played with that in two ways. Strong was hired for SNL while doing improv at The Second City in Chicago, where she moved . STRONG: (As The Girl You Wish You Hadn't Started a Conversation With at a Party) Here's a thought, Michael - maybe try being woke for a change, OK? STRONG: (As Jeanine Pirro) That's right. STRONG: No. GROSS: Then you have a couple episodes where you share your opinions of films of the '80s and films of the '90s. It was only really one episode that I missed and I really wanted to be there. GROSS: That's really funny. Talk about the process of writing that. was a lifetime in the making. She attended Oak Park and River Forest High School respectively. Developed by Cinco Paul and Ken . GROSS: I love the way mansplaining becomes like, don't man-terrupt me (laughter). And he was trying to help me find things. And for her, it's all these really positive qualities. STRONG: I did - and I mean, not always. My life - you know, to just not really know your place yet and then be told you don't have a place here, it just kind of - I felt like I was - I didn't talk for a year or something. You put the corn in the puddin' and the puddin' in the bowl. And then I remembered, like, hearing my straight, male friends talk about interactions that they'd had, like, with some girl that seems normal, and then it's like, oh, she just said something crazy, and how do I get out of this conversation? And you're being, you know, waited on by a - you know, a very lovely, very young (laughter) waitress. He co-created, co-wrote and wrote all the songs for the series "Schmigadoon!" We'll first hear the voice of Michael Che on "Weekend Update.". I never wanted the songs to be too jokey, if that makes sense. A powerful memoir from the Saturday Night Live cast member Cecily Strong about grieving the death of her cousinand embracing the life-affirming lessons he taught heramid the coronavirus pandemic. STRONG: Right. UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR #2: (As character, singing) Every steak's bound to have some fat. It's brought me such pleasure at a time when I think we all need some pleasure. Production Photos See Emmy Nominee Cecily Strong Take the Stage in Los Angeles Run of The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe. The series is streaming on Apple TV+. Strong is most notable for being a cast member on the NBC sketch comedy series Saturday Night Live from 2012 to 2022. And immediately he's concerned about the age difference, especially because the actresses, you know, who play these roles were never actually teenagers. And, you know, she talks about, like, other men are really harsh and - but he's gentle, you know, like a lacy valentine. GROSS: Like, among the shows he did was terrific revivals of "Music Man," which is, of course, referenced (laughter) in "Schmigadoon!" NPR transcripts are created on a rush deadline by an NPR contractor. CECILY STRONG: (As Melissa Gimble) I don't understand. Visit our website terms of use and permissions pages at www.npr.org for further information. I feel like when my kids were little, they were still teaching square dancing. So here's another scene from "Schmigadoon!". And this is from the February 20, 2017, edition of "Saturday Night Live." You know, I was much more protected. And then my uncle is also a Broadway producer. Accuracy and availability may vary. GROSS: So let's talk a little bit about your work on "Saturday Night Live." I got the recipe. He co-created, co-wrote and wrote all the songs for the series "Schmigadoon! It kind of felt like that a little bit. GROSS: What was the impact of that on you? So it wasn't, like, a big shock or anything I thought would - you know, that it was something she couldn't deal with. Producer Ed Strong (bottom right) and his wife, Laurel Strong (bottom l.), take a break from celebrating to pause for a photo with their son Owen Strong, friend Cayenne Douglass, niece Cecily . I mean, I think - it's certainly been a part of my life since I was little. Thanks for finally letting a woman on late-night TV. In her second season, she co-anchored Weekend Update with Seth Meyers and then Colin Jost. And then my uncle is also a Broadway producer. This Mueller report completely exonerated the president, and therefore everybody on the Trump train, woo, woo (ph). And I had that above my bed until we - I moved out - I think, till I went to college. GROSS: (Laughter) The music is kind of like a hoedown. Here to explain is Jeanine Pirro. We're leaving. UNIDENTIFIED CHORUS: (As characters, chanting) Corn puddin', corn puddin', corn puddin', corn puddin'. GROSS: We're listening to my interview with Cecily Strong, who stars in "Schmigadoon!," the Apple TV+ series which is a loving satire of classic musicals from the '40s and '50s. Luckily for us, but maybe - who knows? You know, we were getting ready for one of those - I think they were two "Update" specials because it was an election year. GROSS: And it just reminded me, too, that when I was in school, we had to learn some of that kind of dancing - you know, like, square dancing. And he sings a song that kind of is a "Secret Love" kind of song (laughter) but PAUL: Yes, where he inadvertently reveals to Cecily's character that he's gay. STRONG: (As Melissa Gimble) Yum. And you can't have love without having a lover's spat. Luckily for us, but maybe - who knows for the greater world - someone else can judge luckily or not, but she became more popular and more of a household name. Otherwise, it's hard to get an impression on the show. UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR #5: (As character) Did somebody say corn puddin'? And he was showing me clips of her, like, doing man-on-the-street interviews. I don't know exactly where you live. Like, he doesn't look at other women. Cecily Strong. SNL season 48 premiered without some cast members many considered synonymous with the show in recent years. KEY: (As Josh Skinner) I'm not singing, and you're not singing. GROSS: Had you been vaccinated when you shot the series? STRONG: (As Jeanine Pirro) And Colin, I just want to take this opportunity to say hi to my super fans out there. Like, what are you thinking? It was at the 2019 Christmas party, that Cecily's agent made her meet him. GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. GROSS: That's Cecily Strong as Judge Jeanine Pirro. And this is how important it is to manage it. God, this whole musical is so much fun. And then one is the older sort of father figure love interest, you know, that you see in "King And I" and "Sound Of Music" and "South Pacific." And from the - I was a weird little kid, Terry, I have to say. Cecily Legler Strong (born February 8, 1984)[2][3] is an American actress and comedian who has been a cast member of Saturday Night Live . And I loved school, so it was really tough being expelled. Strong also has a new memoir called "This Will All Be Over Soon." During a recent . It was sort of like in that robotic tone that you get kind of when you're depressed, when it's like, this is just the reality of - this is what I want. Being a regular member of The Second City and iO Chicago. But at that point, I think I had started getting pretty depressed, and I - because of the time I missed. UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR #5: (As character) Did somebody say corn puddin'? I saw my first Marx Brothers movie when I was 10 on TV, and I fell in love with the Marx Brothers and became obsessed. I'd feel safer being a child actor in Chicago. This was performed after Pirro made anti-Muslim remarks about Representative Ilhan Omar. And then my uncle is also a Broadway producer. My Uncle Ed is a theater producer in New York, my dad and . Corn, corn, corn, corn, corn puddin'. She has over 500k followers on her Instagram. GROSS: So the Cecily Strong character loves musicals. Grown adults burst into song, one of which extolling the virtues of "corn pudding." Comedy stars like Cecily Strong and Keegan-Michael Key mingle with Broadway . And in many ways, it's my wife. You put the bowl in your belly 'cause it's good for the soul. I need to get - I have to practice this fall. Directed by Barry Sonnenfeld. And I think Hal Willner, our music producer, had passed away the night before or something. And like, hi, I haven't seen you. So right away I was like, oh, God. Strong mentioned that her uncle is a Broadway producer in a 2021 interview with Terry Gross on the NPR program Fresh Air, thus she was able to see several Broadway productions as a child and even go backstage . Extra-dirty vodka Martinis - they're so easy to drink! You put the bowl in your belly 'cause it's good for the soul. But then, I mean, I did go back, and it was important to me, and it felt good to laugh. STRONG: (As Jeanine Pirro) Can't do it, pal. GROSS: And he's not just a Broadway producer. And it is - it still feels a bit like controlled chaos, on "Update" especially, where it feels kind of fresh, and we're not exactly sure what's going to happen. GROSS: Were you thrilled to be doing a commercial? I wound up being lucky and getting to go to the Catholic school I went to. PAUL: (Laughter) I guess it was more appropriate for me growing up in Phoenix. GROSS: So let's hear a clip of you doing Jeanine Pirro. And that really led to my love of movies and reading about movies and then starting to make my own with our family's Super 8 camera, which we've gotten for home movies, you know, on vacation. We'll hear from the co-creator of "Schmigadoon!" And I always wanted to be an actor since I was little. STRONG: (As Melissa Gimble) Seriously, please? She's making her New York stage debut in the one-woman show "The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe," opening at the Shed. The series is streaming on Apple TV+. Seven of the comedy sketch show's cast members left the . I'm Terry Gross. STRONG: No, it actually - I think it was probably Bryan Tucker, who I write with, and I wound up writing a lot of my "Update" characters with them, or sort of those - anybody that's a real - you know, I write Marjorie Taylor Greene with him, and we did Sidney Powell together this year, too. What did you do to try to capture her voice? Our schoolmarm is Emma Tate. PAUL: You know, when we were early on conceiving of the show and the journeys that our characters would take, I really wanted Cecily's character Melissa to be involved in what I think are the two big tropes in these old musicals. And so - but everything that is evidence that he's gay, she sees as a really positive quality. What did you do to try to capture her voice? STRONG: Right. Yeah, I got handcuffed and brought to a cop car and taken to the station. And she told me I was looking at the world with S - I can't swear - with crap-colored glasses. We all know that so many performers on Broadway historically have been gay, and it's only in recent years that they've been able to be out. What is your critique of how the school and the police handled you? She's nominated for an Emmy for her work on "Saturday Night Live." And they don't even know what corn pudding is. And I always wanted to be an actor since I was little. These Cecily Strong "SNL" performances were more than strong. The studio behind the project is Universal Television, with Lorne Michaels and Andrew Singer of Broadway Video. I'll just keep driving west - right? GROSS: Well, let's take a short break here, and then we'll talk some more. This is a colostomy, Michael Che. How were you first exposed to musicals? But she left the desk, preferring to do sketch comedy, which she's great at. GROSS: Like, among the shows he did was terrific revivals of "Music Man," which is, of course, referenced (laughter) in "Schmigadoon!" And I think my uncle probably didn't want me to be an actor as much as I did, just knowing that it was a tough life. And I think that the worst example is "Shipoopi" from "Music Man," which is - it brings everything to a grinding halt, and then this Marcellus character is just singing this nonsense song that has nothing to do with anything. And I just - I did theater. STRONG: No, I would - it feels great because, this past year especially, I'm just - I'm so proud of the show and being a part of the show. You just really got her down (laughter). COLIN JOST: (As himself) Fox News personality Judge Jeanine Pirro returned to television tonight after being suspended two weeks for controversial comments about a Muslim congresswoman. STRONG: Thank you. GROSS: Well, I wish you well. And I wound up doing correspondence classes and graduating on time. GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. STRONG: I said no, actually, at first to going to Vancouver and shooting because I was - I really was afraid, you know? This is FRESH AIR. Cecily Strong had a special bond with her cousin Owen. During this final week of the year, we're featuring a few of the many interviews from 2021 that we enjoyed. What's true love really mean? (SOUNDBITE OF GWENDOLYN DEASE'S "PORKCHOP'S BLUES"), GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. STRONG: Well, first of all, just thank you for saying that. during the pandemic. Will Get Your Toes Tapping, So Sing Along If You Know The Words. STRONG: (As Melissa Gimble) Come on. Then I kind of want to, like, go further. PAUL: What would be the worst possible song to subject him to, you know? I'll do anything. And I started, you know - I would - I had to tell my mom because there was a couple of nights - I shared a car with my brother at this time. I think I took my first drama class when I was 3. Hello, Michael Che. And we just thought it was so funny, and it was a fun way to play her. (As characters, singing) And then he gives her a snack. STRONG: It's hard to say, honestly. It's so, like, vaudeville era. 1 year ago. Her new memoir, "This Will All Be Over Soon," will be published tomorrow. The same year, she starred in, and was a producer for, Schmigadoon!, a musical parody series on Apple TV+. It's - so I just don't know for sure yet. And then in making fun of myself, we sort of just kept playing with that, and that led into the Girl You Wish You Hadn't Started a Conversation With at a Party. (SOUNDBITE OF TV SHOW, "SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE"). STRONG: Well, it was sort of a mix of, like, I'm making fun of myself, and then I'm thinking about people I'd seen on Facebook. STRONG: Oh, totally. But also, I remember singing "Singin' In The Rain" for the first time as a kid and Donald O'Connor doing "Make 'Em Laugh," and I thought that was the greatest thing I'd ever seen in my life. That strikes me as a little bit crazy. Also, Keegan has, you know, this young farm girl pursuing him, played by Dove Cameron. STRONG: (As The Girl You Wish You Hadn't Started a Conversation with at a Party) Please do not man-terrupt (ph) me when I'm wo-making (ph) a point, Michael. Like, what word - what is, like, a word that's in the social lexicon of the moment that this girl would hear and say wrong? UNIDENTIFIED CHORUS: (As characters, singing) You put the corn in the puddin' and the puddin' in the bowl. And then he turns off the tape to say, like, oh, and off the record, you're a great student, and we're sorry to lose you. It kind of felt like that a little bit. GROSS: And he's not just a Broadway producer. STRONG: And it would, like, end in some crazy, like, exclamation. STRONG: (As Melissa Gimble) Then what are you saying? STRONG: Yeah, exactly. But she kept going, what? STRONG: (As Melissa Gimble, singing) Never had had corn puddin'. It was my first year talking with Colin. And so it feels like breakthrough infections are going to be a part of all of our lives soon, too. Why couldn't we cross? Cecily Strong is good at women. And he was trying to help me find things. With a Broadway producer uncle in her own family, Strong was heavily exposed to the musical scene, making it an early love in her life. Strong, who joined the cast of "Saturday Night Live" in 2012, received several accolades for her impersonations of Melania Trump, Fox News host, Judge Jeanine Pirro, and many others. GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. (SOUNDBITE OF MARVIN HAMLISCH'S "MULTI-TASKING"). If you're just joining us, my guest is Cecily Strong. So that's when I joined SAG. But this is a song where she has no clue that her husband is gay. Now Emmy-nominated actress Cecily Strong slides through the tour-de-force roles created by the Peabody and Emmy Award-winning writer Jane Wagner who is reimagining the legendary one-person play . This is FRESH AIR. It's on or near the Hudson River. And whenever a musical theater song would somehow pop up in my mix, he would say, skip. Cecily Strong is an American actress and comedian. That's just so funny. You're in a safer place, safer in the sense that you can go outside without having to go down an elevator and walk through a lobby and be - you know, be in the middle of Manhattan. I'm also - love the show and get a lot of joy from it. She grew up visiting him backstage . And, like, those are usually boring, too, and I never really understand the function that they serve. The men are dressed like they're in old-fashioned barbershop quartets. So I think that led to my love of these 1920s songs, you know, the Tin Pan Alley stuff. And actually, my dad took a bunch of pictures. What - my parents put me in one, I should say. PAUL: Well, I thought it was really important. GROSS: How did you come up with the idea of a musical about people trapped in a musical set in the early 20th century? KEY: (As Josh Skinner) Would you leave us alone for just a minute? GROSS: Yeah. Can you believe this, that we lost Hal, you know? This is FRESH AIR. Later, we'll hear from Cinco Paul, who co-created the series and wrote all the songs. We'll start with Cecily Strong. Strong said, admitting she immediately said yes to starring in the show, even though she thought the idea was "insane." Leigh Silverman is the director of the off-Broadway revival of The Search . And, you know, their - a lot of their movies were kind of musicals. . You've just really got her down (laughter). And I think a lot of that, you can feel it when you watch the show, and I think that's probably why I enjoy rewatching it so much is just taking myself back there. This is FRESH AIR. GROSS: Because she has gaydar and no one in the town does (laughter). (SOUNDBITE OF TV SHOW, "SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE"). But my man loves cooking. And new flash, Michael - 40% of children are just their legs. GROSS: A turning point in your young life (laughter) was in 1999 when you were a sophomore in high school. Saturday Night Live cast member Cecily Strong will provide an exclusive preview of her new memoir, "This Will All Be Over . It was like as soon as I started singing, I knew what to say. And I had that above my bed until we - I moved out - I think, till I went to college. You want to try with other people? GROSS: One of the things in some musicals is - the love affairs in some musicals, I think, would be considered pretty age-inappropriate now, like, for example, "The Sound Of Music," where, like, she's a young nun who's just left the convent. KEY: (As Josh Skinner) I'm not saying anything. I'm not going to do the show. In case you are wondering about his identity, Jack is an international traveler. Sure, she's popped up in small cameos for shows like Angie Tribeca , Superstore, and Scream . And it's like, you don't know what corn puddin' is? I was licking a soft-serve ice-cream cone. Keegan-Michael Key's character hates musicals and is desperate to leave. And you shot "Schmigadoon!" UNIDENTIFIED CHORUS: (As characters, singing) Then she complains that he don't understand her. GROSS: That's pretty great. Could be fun. How are you doing? in season Host(s) Musical guest Original air date U.S. viewers (millions) 931: 1: Miles Teller: Kendrick Lamar: October 1, 2022 (): 4.02: Kendrick Lamar performs a medley of "Rich Spirit" and "N95" for his first set and "Father Time" with Sampha for his second.Jon Hamm and Shaun White appear in the cold open. She Knows Broadway Well. She is best known for being a cast member of Saturday Night Live. So I'd like you to talk a little bit about what you think of those moments in musicals where you have to sing about food or a picnic or a clambake. Thirty-seven cents - it must not be very good, something that - and then I made a face like, huh? I mean, the season starts - what? But apparently, some cosmic verdict has been reached. GROSS: Oh, yeah. You know, I was a straight-A student up until then. And this is from the February 20, 2017, edition of "Saturday Night Live." Then I kind of want to, like, go further. now and Cecily's character really likes to get involved in people's lives, she helps push him to, you know, proclaim to the whole town who he really is. Cecily Strong as seen in May 2015 (The Peabody Awards / Flickr / CC BY-2.0) Best Known For. Andrew Singer executive produces with Lorne Michaels on behalf of Broadway Video. We'll be right back after a short break. Let's start with "Schmigadoon!," which is filled with references to classic musicals, like "Oklahoma!," "Carousel," "The Music Man," "The Sound Of Music" and, of course, "Brigadoon." UNIDENTIFIED CHORUS: (As characters, singing) Oh, she sure would like a taste. GROSS: Some musicals have really corny scenes in them, and the kind of scene that always bores me is the picnic scene where it's like, this was a real nice clambake. I saw "Once Upon A Mattress," which I absolutely loved and really wanted to do. And you kind of have a song parodying that called "Corn Puddin'.". . Saturday Night Live's Cecily Strong stars in the new production of Lily Tomlin and Jane Wagner's "The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe." . I've been slightly hypoglycemic since I was a kid, so I have to make sure I eat in the morning and get my sugar. The women are wearing long, colorful prairie dresses with big petticoats. . PAUL: From your mouth to God's ears. UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR #4: (As character, singing) Who wants corn puddin'? UNIDENTIFIED CHORUS: (As characters, singing) I got us corn puddin'. She's nominated for an Emmy for her work on "Saturday Night Live." Originally broadcast Aug. 9 and Aug. 23. Facts Buddy Fast, Factual, Free! Let's get back to my interview with Cinco Paul. Can we skip that and get to the good stuff? UNIDENTIFIED CHORUS: (As characters, singing) It's just a lover's spat. The authoritative record of NPRs programming is the audio record. KEY: (As Josh Skinner) I didn't say that. We'll be right back. GROSS: Oh, you wrote the song? So we did her on "Update.". GROSS: And so the reason why they're singing about corn pudding is it's their first morning in town. We'll be right back after we take a short break. GROSS: I really love that. GROSS: Yeah, he's great in it. Farmer McDonough craved a son. GROSS: To shoot and be in these, like, exuberant, like, joyful production scenes? But I remember, you know, "Camelot" and "South Pacific" and "Guys And Dolls" and hearing those a lot. 'Schmigadoon!' star Cecily Strong and co-creator Cinco Paul embrace musical satire The Apple TV+ satire series . I think it'll - honestly, I think she'll be so touched to hear that from you, too. "You know how much I hate musicals. I am just trying to figure out how to get out of here and get back to reality. You know, really, we talk about escapism, and I had real-life escapism where I flew into this beautiful, magical land of Vancouver, where there's, like, water and mountains and big trees. He's . Here's all the safety measures - until I finally felt safe. I love the show so much. She has no clue that he's gay, but she knows that, you know, he's different from the other men. There must be a lobby somewhere that is making sure that that's still taught in schools. And I think it's wrong to throw those kids out. Talk about the process of writing that. Strong said that because her uncle is a Broadway producer, . and "The Lorax.". Stop. And then kind of like, well, I don't know that we'll ever get to do that again. But they both soon realize they're trapped in Schmigadoon, where life is a musical. - because, you know, every kid wants to go to California. To be a 10 or 11-year-old kid obsessed with that sort of music was very odd, but I just - I loved it from an early age. Cecily Strong and Keegan-Michael Key star as a couple of trying to reinvigorate their relationship by going on a hike designed for couples who need to reconnect. GROSS: That makes no sense at all (laughter). JOST: (As himself) You don't have to shout, you know. Several familiar faces were gone, and many fans were left asking where was Cecily Strong. And actually, my dad took a bunch of pictures. UNIDENTIFIED CHORUS: (As characters, singing) And then he gives her a smack. I love the show so much. You want to try with other people? For "Broadway in the Berkshires," producer and actor Deborah Grausman brought together director Robin Levine, music director Laura Bergquist, writer/comedian Jason Salmon, and production stage manager Kat West. My mom is in Mexico. GROSS: So your character in "Schmigadoon!" FRESH AIR's executive producer is Danny Miller. It's not something we're going to eradicate. Is this still going on, your podcast? 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